God bless America

Re: God bless America  

  By: XTOL on Venerdì 18 Dicembre 2020 21:48

Re: God bless America  

  By: pana on Venerdì 18 Dicembre 2020 19:41

kamala harris e joe biden riporteranno il sogno aemrica

l american dream

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Re: God bless America  

  By: XTOL on Venerdì 18 Dicembre 2020 16:18

io sono più conciso:

Re: God bless America  

  By: Tuco on Venerdì 18 Dicembre 2020 16:16

Due righe di rito:

"Non ho intenzione di perdere tempo a risponderti, visto che ti considero una nullità",

period.

SLAVA UKRAINII !


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Re: God bless America  

  By: XTOL on Venerdì 18 Dicembre 2020 15:27

bravo ciuco, riportando up krugman mi hai permesso di leggerlo (prima avevo automaticamente scartato il thread, essendoci un intervento della sciacquetta)...

quindi, detto per inciso a hobi (che non ha capito, as usual) che ho citato la clamorosa cantonata presa da krugman per dimostrare una volta di più cosa la presunzione produce in qualsiasi cervello - nobel o non nobel - : lo rende cretino,

vediamo cosa ha scoperto il premio nobel: che la reaganomics non è la prova che abbassare le tasse produca boom economici.

bene, sono perfettamente d'accordo

La scuola austriaca afferma da sempre che:

1- il ciclo economico è INEVITABILE

2- il boom-bust è tanto più violento quanto più il boom è incentivato dall'interventismo della bc

3- abbassare le tasse produce semplicemente uno spostamento degli investimenti: da statali a privati

Quali dei due abbiano una miglior ricaduta sull'economia generale, lascio a krugman deciderlo (AHAHAH)


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Re: God bless America  

  By: Tuco on Venerdì 18 Dicembre 2020 11:21

Up!

SLAVA UKRAINII !

Re: God bless America  

  By: XTOL on Venerdì 18 Dicembre 2020 09:02

Re: God bless America  

  By: pana on Venerdì 18 Dicembre 2020 07:19

AHAHHeheh smontata con logica impietosa  la narrazione repubblicana del miracolo reagan

ha solo avuto fortuna ad insediarsi dopo una recessione 

 

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Re: God bless America  

  By: Tuco on Venerdì 18 Dicembre 2020 04:02

 Legend of The Gipper

 

By Paul Krugman

Opinion Columnist

Today's column was about the Republican rejection of facts, which I argued really began under President Ronald Reagan. In passing I said a bit about the legend of the Reagan economy, which plays an outsized role in conservative economic doctrine to this day. And I thought it might be interesting to talk some more both about the reality of Reaganomics and the relevance of that reality to possibilities over the next few years.

First of all, why are Republicans still talking so much about Reagan? The answer is that the core of modern conservative economic doctrine is the assertion that cutting taxes, especially on the wealthy, does wonderful things for the economy. And they hold up Reagan’s economic record as proof of that doctrine’s truth.

Why use an example that is decades in the past, rather than a more recent success story? The answer is that there aren’t any recent success stories. Since 1990 claims that tax cuts will generate huge booms — and that tax hikes will lead to disaster — have belly-flopped again and again. President Bill Clinton’s tax increases in 1993 didn’t cause the recession just about everyone on the right predicted; President George W. Bush’s tax cuts didn’t produce a “Bush boom.” The Trump tax cut didn’t deliver anything like the promised results.

In 2011 Gov. Sam Brownback of Kansas cut taxes sharply, promising that this would lead to a surge in growth. It didn't. At the same time, California raised taxes; conservatives declared that this would be “economic suicide.” It wasn’t.

So it’s back to Reagan. But was the Reagan story really all that great?

Right-wing politicians think so — but this is based on what they’ve heard from people in their intellectual bubble. A few years back, for example, Sen. Rand Paul made what he thought was a telling point: “When was the last time in our country we created millions of jobs? It was under Ronald Reagan …” Actually, more jobs were created under Clinton.

So where does the legend of Reagan come from? Partly, of course, from pretending that the Clinton-era boom never happened — which is easier because of the “hack gap”: Conservatives and their media outlets constantly harp on their preferred story lines, in a way liberals don’t. But it also involves a bait-and-switch on timing, essentially pretending that Reagan’s presidency didn’t start until the end of the severe recession that occupied most of his first two years in office.

 

How much difference does this make? If you look at G.D.P. over the whole of Reagan’s time in office, it grew at an annual rate of 3.38 percent — compared with 3.33 percent under President Jimmy Carter and 3.68 percent under Clinton. Given the limitations of economic statistics, which I like to describe as a peculiarly boring form of science fiction, this basically amounts to no difference.

But if you start at the bottom of the 1981-2 recession, the rate of growth in the rest of the Reagan years was 4.7 percent. Morning in America!

The truth is that Reagan doesn’t deserve blame for the 1981-2 recession — but he doesn’t deserve credit for the subsequent recovery, either. Instead, it was all about the Federal Reserve. The Fed sharply raised interest rates in 1980 in an attempt to bring inflation down, causing a severe recession; then it relented in the summer of 1982 and the economy snapped back. That snapback led to two years of rapid growth, as unused capacity was brought back online — and tax-cutting conservatives have been falsely claiming credit for that growth ever since.

So what’s the relevance of all this to where we are now? I’ve been arguing for a while that the pandemic is playing an economic role that, in a peculiar way, is similar to that of the high interest rates of the early 1980s, and that there will be a period of very fast growt once the vaccine lets us go back to more or less normal life. So, do you think conservatives will give President-elect Joe Biden credit for a new Morning in America?

That was a rhetorical question.

 

P.s.

"The Gipper" era il soprannome di Reagan, per via di certi suoi proclami in riferimento ad un certo personaggio

"G.O.P." nell'articolo precedente, invece, è l'acronimo di Great Old Party, ovvero il partito repubblicano americano.

 

 

SLAVA UKRAINII !


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Re: God bless America  

  By: hobi50 on Venerdì 18 Dicembre 2020 00:05

Xtoll si è stupito che Krugman abbia cannato alla grande una previsione di una ventina di anni fa.

Sulla base di questo ritiene di poterlo screditare.

Se sapesse che Einstein ha sbagliato due famose equazioni sulla teoria della relatività !

Quindi ,ben di più che una previsione.

Ciononostante Krugman rimane Krugman ( solo un premio Nobel per l'economia ),Einstein spero che rimanga Einstein..

Ed anche Xtoll rimane lo stesso.

Ricerche continue su internet in cui raccatta ,spazzatura,illazioni e ...ultimamente anche vignette .

Bravo !

Viva. HK

Re: God bless America  

  By: XTOL on Giovedì 17 Dicembre 2020 22:32

il sistema elettorale americano è veramente incredibile, fa acqua da tutte le parti

Facebook coinvolto nella frode elettorale

Re: God bless America  

  By: Ganzo il Magnifico on Giovedì 17 Dicembre 2020 21:16

<SDONG>

 

Slava Cocaïnii!

Re: God bless America  

  By: pana on Giovedì 17 Dicembre 2020 19:57

RECORD COVID DEATH DAY :: 3656 !

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9061919/US-breaks-record-coronavirus-deaths-3-400.html

 

 il trampone se ne esce dalla casa b ianca camminando su un tappeto di morti

 

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Re: God bless America  

  By: XTOL on Giovedì 17 Dicembre 2020 17:38

krugman? krugman chi? 

questo krugman?

Paul Krugman > Quotes

“The Internet’s impact on the economy has been no greater than the fax machine’s….ten years from now, the phrase “information economy” will sound silly. (1997)”


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Re: God bless America  

  By: Tuco on Giovedì 17 Dicembre 2020 16:32

 

When Did Republicans Start Hating Facts?

By Paul Krugman

Republicans spent most of 2020 rejecting science in the face of a runaway pandemic; now they’re rejecting democracy in the face of a clear election loss.

What do these rejections have in common? In each case, one of America’s two major parties simply refused to accept facts it didn’t like.

I’m not sure it’s right to say Republicans “believe” that, say, wearing face masks is useless or that there was widespread voter fraud. Framing the issue as one of belief suggests that some kind of evidence might change party loyalists’ minds.

In reality, what Republicans say they believe flows from what they want to do, whether it’s ignore a deadly disease or stay in power despite the voters’ verdict.

In other words, the point isn’t that the G.O.P. believes untrue things. It is, rather, that the party has become hostile to the very idea that there’s an objective reality that might conflict with its political goals.

Notice, by the way, that I’m not including qualifiers, like saying “some” Republicans. We’re talking about most of the party here. The Texas lawsuit calling on the Supreme Court to overturn the election was both absurd and deeply un-American, but more than 60 percent of Republicans in the House signed a brief supporting it, and only a handful of elected Republicans denounced the suit.

At this point, you aren’t considered a proper Republican unless you hate facts.

But when and how did the G.O.P. get that way? If you think it started with Donald Trump and will end when he leaves the scene (if he ever does), you’re naïve.

Republicans have been heading in this direction for decades. I’m not sure whether we can pinpoint the moment when the party began its descent into malignant madness, but the trajectory that led to this moment probably became irreversible under Ronald Reagan.

Republicans have, of course, turned Reagan into an icon, portraying him as the savior of a desperate, declining nation. Mostly, however, this is just propaganda. You’d never know from the legend that economic growth under Reagan was only slightly faster than it had been under Jimmy Carter, and slower than it would be under Bill Clinton.

And rapidly rising income inequality meant that a disproportionate share of the benefits from economic growth went to a small elite, with only a bit trickling down to most of the population. Poverty, measured properly, was higher in 1989 than it had been a decade earlier.

Anyway, gross domestic product isn’t the same thing as well-being. Other measures suggest that we were already veering off course.

For example, in 1980 life expectancy in America was similar to that in other wealthy nations; but the Reagan years mark the beginning of the great mortality divergence of the United States from the rest of the advanced world. Today, Americans can, on average, expect to live almost four fewer years than their counterparts in comparable countries.

The main point, however, is that under Reagan, irrationality and hatred for facts began to take over the G.O.P.

There has always been a conspiracy-theorizing, science-hating, anti-democratic faction in America. Before Reagan, however, mainstream conservatives and the Republican establishment refused to make alliance with that faction, keeping it on the political fringe.

Reagan, by contrast, brought the crazies inside the tent.

Many people are, I think, aware that Reagan embraced a crank economic doctrine — belief in the magical power of tax cuts. I’m not sure how many remember that the Reagan administration was also remarkably hostile to science.

Reagan’s ability to act on this hostility was limited by Democratic control of the House and the fact that the Senate still contained a number of genuinely moderate Republicans. Still, Reagan and his officials spent years denying the threat from acid rain while insisting that evolution was just a theory and promoting the teaching of creationism in schools.

This rejection of science partly reflected deference to special interests that didn’t want science-based regulation. Even more important, however, was the influence of the religious right, which first became a major political force under Reagan, has become ever more central to the Republican coalition and is now a major driver of the party’s rejection of facts — and democracy.

For rejecting facts comes naturally to people who insist that they’re acting on behalf of God. So does refusing to accept election results that don’t go their way. After all, if liberals are servants of Satan trying to destroy America’s soul, they shouldn’t be allowed to exercise power even if they should happen to win more votes.

Sure enough, a few days ago the televangelist Pat Robertson — who first became politically influential under Reagan — pronounced the Texas lawsuit a “miracle,” an intervention by God that would keep Trump in office.

The point is that the G.O.P. rejection of facts that has been so conspicuous this year wasn’t an aberration. What we’re seeing is the culmination of a degradation that began a long time ago and is almost surely irreversible.

 

Iniziamo a pubblicare una serie di articoli piuttosto interessanti, utili a comprendere anche la situazione politica americana, che,

per motivi molto ovvi, ci interessa particolarmente.

SLAVA UKRAINII !


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